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  JW "Elders" really have their nerve!

  by mamashel in

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  i have been inactive for about 2 years now.

  my husband and i were going to meetings kind of hit and miss for a short time, but as most of you know we have decided to stop all together.

  well my 17 year old continued for a short time after we quit going and to make a long story short she became pregnant by a baptized brother from another congregation.

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  nancee park

  See, there is plenty you can do!
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  JW "Elders" really have their nerve!

  by mamashel in

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  i have been inactive for about 2 years now.

  my husband and i were going to meetings kind of hit and miss for a short time, but as most of you know we have decided to stop all together.

  well my 17 year old continued for a short time after we quit going and to make a long story short she became pregnant by a baptized brother from another congregation.

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  nancee park

  Simply send copies of the following to as many JWs as you can:

  DEAR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND PUBLIC: There are many nice Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) but the top Governing Body of the Watchtower Society (WTS) leaders, and most local WTS elders cover up child molestation, let JW pedophiles go door-to-door, get at victims at get-togethers or Bible
  Studies,( http://www.silentlambs.org or toll-free 1 877-WT-ABUSE), don't tell rank-and-file about being a Non-Governmental Organization in the UN 1991-2001 though preaching against the U.N., etc. This shows a handcuffed UK pedophile elder: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2123000/2123546.stm
  
  And WTS leaks state that over 23,000 JW pedophiles are on file at WTS Bethel headquarters in Brooklyn, New York (USA), most unrevealed to police despite Romans 13:1. That at least one pedophile was on the Governing Body of the WTS in the 1980s if not now also is documented: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5466&site=3 Convicted Ministerial Servant/Elder pedophiles include Gregory Blackstone at Hollis, New Hampshire; Larry Baker at Augusta, Maine; Tim Gardner at Richmond, Missouri; Manual Beliz at Othello, WA; others in France, Norway, Australia etc
  
  WTS Awake and Watchtower magazines and elders say God opposes the UN but, until exposed, in 1991-2001 the WTS was secretly a formal UN associate not just to use the UN's library as proved if you read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine and use Search at the top at jehovahs-witness.org with "UN" or "U.N." Besides, the UN does not even require a group to become an official associate group to get a card to use its library! After this was on the internet the official U.N. ties were cut but not all unofficial ties: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34436&site=3 Christ said families would be split by those doing right and those doing wrong but WTS has formal Judicial Committees destroying families via numerous formal renderings of disfellowshipment (severe shunning). 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge "trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, and Paul says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6) followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer, meaning a Minority chose not to and yet he nowhere condemns them.
  
  Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate unBLED meat to not starve and no verses show God not forgiving them. Christ says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread and that God wants Mercy Not Sacrifice. (Mt 12) The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org. About 3 JWs die daily earthwide from the unscriptural policy! (Blood On The Altar by David Reed) Yet most normal identical twins transfuse whole blood to each other through a shared placenta and childrens' whole blood is sometimes found in mothers years after birth.
  
  WTS says Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why ignore counting back 9 months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3 says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e. Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based? Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god. The word Easter may as easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites!
  
  Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless pranks coming from Ireland where maybe or maybe not taken from pagans even as wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Why does the WTS call compromises holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16 says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? WTS calls a cross a repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18) They say it was a stake but human remains and inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in hours if on outstretched cross per Lu 23:44 and Mat 27:45-6, and the word stauros can mean not just stake but cross.
  
  Although almost only the United Pentecostals teach that Jesus is God Almighty (Jehovah) Himself, WTS says the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are one "identical" person and falsely say most all Protestant and Catholic churches teach that, even though the fact is that most all other Protestant and Catholic groups accept the trinity idea as being three totally different entities or persons forming one "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son and Spirit sharing inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only one day old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity and information!
  
  Members are told report on each other although the Bible condemns busy-bodying. Nor are regular JWs allowed to read Judicial Committee "sin files" on themselves, many not knowing they exist often with misinformation and kept at Brooklyn's Bethel headquarters even if destroyed locally after seven years. Page 232 in the Insight book shows a picture of the Pay Attention To Yourselves And All The Flock book that elders have but do not allow non-elders to read. Page 302 in the Daniel book and pages 88 and 651 in the Proclaimers book show photos of the Knights Templar swords and the cross-with-crown-and-wreath used by Masons who sometimes use "Theocratic Warfare" tactics to change members' personalities and fight real/imagined opposers ((AID Book, Insight book under "Lies"; Watchtower June 1, 1960, p 352) on early WTS literature. Not surprisingly with the pedophile and other scandals, many good JWs have also complained of visual and electronic spying and harassment, including physically! Some old WT books also have the winged sun god Ra on front covers - never a Christian symbol.
  
  Many Jehovah's Witnesses staying JWs are cutting time and money given the WTS which is declared "apostate" by silentlambs.org for endangering children, the secret U.N. liason etc. Many exJWs meet for fun ( http://exjw.meetup.com/ ), get a newsletter from a fellowship united by love which is greater than forced same beliefs (Col 3:14, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian/ ), join a church etc. Beware that in the wake of the pedophile scandals, failed end-time prophecies etc, most former JWs posting at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36020&site=3 believe fanatics in the WTS could possibly do something of an "Armageddon" style mentality. This was written out of love for JW families and friends and the public's kids - yours too! Please help silentlambs.org (1 877-WT-ABUSE) battle for the kids (and adults) by making and distributing more copies of this today!
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  Meetup In Greensboro

  by Undecided in

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  i went to the meetup in the bowling alley in greensboro yesterday.

  only one couple and me showed up.

  we waited for about 45 minutes and decided to leave for a place we could talk, the noise was so loud that we couldn't hear each other without shouting.

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  nancee park

  If you advertised in local papers with your email or whatever I'm sure some more would see it and respond.
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  20 year old JW dead in USA - AJWRB responds

  by Lee Elder in

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  on thursday september 5th, we learned that a 20 year old jehovahs witness (jw) named collins stephens had died in an intensive care unit in little rock, arkansas.

  for us, this tragedy is heightened by the knowledge that something as simple as a transfusion of red cells might well have saved collins life by allowing physicians to repair his damaged heart and aorta.. we know that collin was in an accident and that he survived for over ten days in a drug induced coma.

  we know that physicians worked feverishly to keep him alive and build up his blood count.

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  nancee park

  What do you do to make or raise funds? Bake sales or what if any? Do you send out letters asking for any funds? Contact foundations to request applications for free grant money? Sell "Im Memory Of..." tee-shirts? Sell a book about the problem?

  What do you do for that?
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  WORST PRESENTATION I'VE EVER SEEN

  by mustang in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (i wrote this during the week, but saturday morning is the most appropriate time for it.

  coming back from the holiday, i was running about an hour late into work.

  i noticed a girl hovering around the bus stop as the bus approached my first stop.

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  nancee park

  I was sitting on a commode when one of "the friends" came into the public bathroom and simply tossed an older Watchtower or Awake under each stall.

  Great way to make some fast placements, eh!
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  Upcoming Holidays- Celebrating in Secret

  by Vitameatavegamin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with autumn in the air, my thoughts start turning to the holidays ahead.

  are any of you doing christmas or thanksgiving?.

  i do, but i have to be so careful, incase any jw family would happen to drop by.

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  nancee park

  The Watchtower Society says Christ was likely born about Oct 2, so why ignore counting back 9
  months for normal conception or genetic-level birth means he was born in late
  December? Why insist Christmas is from the pagan Saturnalia when John 10:22-3
  says Christ also celebrated the Festival of Dedication or Lights, i.e.
  Hannukah, which first began Dec 25 but has varied since because lunar-based?
  Job 1:3, 3:1-3 show Job's kids celebrated birthdays if you read all 3 verses to
  see day of birth is meant. At Luke 2 angels themselves celebrated Christ's
  birth. Santa is from Saint Nicholas, an actual red-robed Christian gift-giving
  elder of the Middle Ages, not a wizard or pagan god. The word Easter may as
  easily be from the Anglo-Saxon word eastern (Christianity came from East of
  England) as from the goddess Eastre, the eggs as likely from the Jewish
  passover egg as from paganry, common sense saying early Christians more likely
  using eggs and rabbits to symbolize the hope for new life by resurrection than
  as vesiges of pagan fertility or sex rites!
  
  Halloween came from All Hallows (Holy Ones/Saints) Evening when parents had
  children dress as saints to encourage them to be good, the normally harmless
  pranks coming from Ireland where maybe or maybe not taken from pagans even as
  wedding rings, names of days, months, some Christian names in the Bible like
  Apollos and Jason also came from pagans. Why does the WTS call compromises
  holidays that attacked and replaced paganisms especially since Colossians 2:16
  says let none judge you about a holiday or Sabbaths? WTS calls a cross a
  repugnant murder weapon but Paul said boast in it as a symbol of resurrection
  over death. (Ga 6:14, 1Cor 1:17-18) They say it was a stake but human remains
  and inscriptions show archaeologists the stauros was a cross not stake, Dr F
  Zugibe's research shows suffocation would be in minutes if on a stake but in
  hours if on outstretched cross per Lu 23:44 and Mat 27:45-6, and the word
  stauros can mean not just stake but cross.
  
  Although almost only the United Pentecostals teach that Jesus is God Almighty
  (Jehovah) Himself, WTS says the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are
  one "identical" person and falsely say most all Protestant and Catholic
  churches teach that, even though the fact is that most all other Protestant and
  Catholic groups accept the trinity idea as being three totally different
  entities or persons forming one "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son and Spirit sharing
  inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only one day
  old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity
  and information!

  There are many nice Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs) but the top Governing Body of the Watchtower Society (WTS) leaders, and most local WTS elders cover up child molestation, let JW pedophiles go
  door-to-door, get at victims at get-togethers or Bible Studies,(http://www.silentlambs.org or toll-free 1 877-WT-ABUSE), don't tell rank-and-file about being a Non-Governmental Organization in the UN 1991-2001 though preaching against the U.N., etc. This shows a handcuffed UK pedophile
  elder:
  
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_2123000/2123546.stm
  
  And WTS leaks state that over 23,000 JW pedophiles are on file at WTS Bethel
  headquarters in Brooklyn, New York (USA), most unrevealed to police despite
  Romans 13:1. At least one pedophile was on the WTS Governing Body in the 1980s

  if not now also as
  documented:http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=5466&site=3
  Convicted Ministerial Servant/Elder pedophiles include Gregory Blackstone at
  Hollis, New Hampshire; Larry Baker at Augusta, Maine; Tim Gardner at Richmond,
  Missouri; Manual Beliz at Othello, WA;
  others in France, Norway, Australia etc
  
  WTS Awake and Watchtower magazines and elders say God opposes the UN but, until
  exposed, in 1991-2001 the WTS was secretly a formal UN associate not just to
  use the UN's library as proved if you read the Nov 22, 1998 Awake magazine and
  use Search at the top at jehovahs-witness.org with "UN" or "U.N." Besides, the
  UN does not even require a group to become an official associate group to get a
  card to use its library! After this was on the internet the official U.N. ties
  were cut but not all unofficial ties:
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34436&site=3
  
  Christ said families would be split by those doing right and those doing wrong
  but WTS has formal Judicial Committees destroying families via numerous formal
  renderings of disfellowshipment (severe shunning). 1 Cor 6:1 only says judge
  "trivial" things as in business, James 2:4-13 calls judging harmful, and Paul
  says the "majority" (2 Cor 2:6) followed his advice to shun a wrongdoer,
  meaning a Minority chose not to and yet he nowhere condemns them.
  
  Acts 15:20 says abstain from blood but 1 Sam 14:32-5 says Saul's army ate
  unBLED meat to not starve and no verses show God not forgiving them. Christ
  says God also forgave David's eating temple holy bread and that God wants Mercy
  Not Sacrifice. (Mt 12) The May 22, 1994 Awake tells of 26 JW kids who died
  without transfusions, and by common sense in massive bleeding as in car wrecks
  blood expanders won't save lives http://www.ajwrb.org. About 3 JWs die daily
  earthwide from the unscriptural policy! (Blood On The Altar by David Reed) Yet
  most normal identical twins transfuse whole blood to each other through a
  shared placenta and childrens' whole blood is sometimes found in mothers years
  after birth.
  
  Although almost only the United Pentecostals teach that Jesus is God Almighty
  (Jehovah) Himself, WTS says the Trinity is believing Father, Son, Spirit are
  one "identical" person and falsely say most all Protestant and Catholic
  churches teach that, even though the fact is that most all other Protestant and
  Catholic groups accept the trinity idea as being three totally different
  entities or persons forming one "Godship" (Ro 1:20), Son and Spirit sharing
  inherited age, power, knowledge from God just as an acorn may be only one day
  old but also have its genes inheriting its ancestral oak tree's age, capacity
  and information!
  
  Members are told report on each other although the Bible condemns busy-bodying.
  Nor are regular JWs allowed to read Judicial Committee "sin files" on
  themselves, many not knowing they exist often with misinformation and kept at
  Brooklyn's Bethel headquarters even if destroyed locally after seven years.
  Page 232 in the Insight book shows a picture of the Pay Attention To Yourselves
  And All The Flock book that elders have but do not allow non-elders to read.
  Page 302 in the Daniel book and pages 88 and 651 in the Proclaimers book show
  photos of the Knights Templar swords and the cross-with-crown-and-wreath used
  by Masons who sometimes use "Theocratic Warfare" tactics to change members'
  personalities and fight real/imagined opposers ((AID Book, Insight book under
  "Lies"; Watchtower June 1, 1960, p 352) on early WTS literature. Not
  surprisingly with the pedophile and other scandals, many good JWs have also
  complained of visual and electronic spying and harassment, including
  physically! Some old WT books also have the winged sun god Ra on front covers -
  never a Christian symbol.
  
  Many Jehovah's Witnesses staying JWs are cutting time and money given the WTS
  which is declared "apostate" by silentlambs.org for endangering children, the
  secret U.N. liason etc. Many exJWs meet for fun (http://exjw.meetup.com/), get
  a newsletter from a fellowship united by love which is greater than forced same
  beliefs (Col 3:14, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jahchristian/), join a church
  etc. With the failed end-time prophecies etc, most former JWs posting at
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=36020&site=3 believe
  fanatics in the WTS could possibly do something of an "Armageddon" style
  mentality. This was written out of love for JW families and friends and the
  public's kids - yours too! Please help silentlambs.org (1 877-WT-ABUSE) battle
  for the kids (and adults) by making and distributing more copies of this today!
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  Florida Press Coverage of sl march

  by silentlambs in

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  jehovahs witnesses speak out

  silence: members want changes in the way the sect handles molestation claims.

  kevin p orter the news herald

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  nancee park

  Thanks for the courage to do what is right, to tell the Real Truth, Steve. And thanks for posting this, Bill.
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  Cards/Notes for Shunned Father

  by Simon in

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  we met lawrence (shunned father) last month in canada and one thing that hit us was how 'alone' he was now that the wts and ther zealots have turned against him.

  i'm sure he could use some support right now and to know that he isn't on his own even though his local support may be a bit light.. if anyone in the uk would like to send lawrence a card or note then you are welcome to send it to us and we will forward them on to him.

  just email me or angharad ([email protected]) and we will send you our address.. anyone from other countries is welcome to do this as well but it will probably take a bit longer.

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  Folks, Lawrence Hughes can also be reached for your notes of support or to join in a worldwide class action lawsuit at:

  [email protected] or

  [email protected]

  The lawsuit can be joined in by anyone harmed by Watchtower policies in general including but not limited to the transfusion, child molestation and disfellowshipping policies.
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  Update on death of Shunned father's daughter

  by Rado Vleugel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the 17-year-old jehovah's witness daughter of shunned father who died of leukemia says he intends to sue the society, claiming it destroyed his family and caused his daughter to fight against blood transfusions.

  read this update and previous stories on http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/.

  rado vleugel

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  nancee park

  See the string up above where I have posted more articles on this and how you can join in the worldwide class action lawsuit over Watchtower policies pertaining to transfusions, disfellowshipping, child molestation etc.
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  Update on death of Shunned father's daughter

  by Rado Vleugel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the 17-year-old jehovah's witness daughter of shunned father who died of leukemia says he intends to sue the society, claiming it destroyed his family and caused his daughter to fight against blood transfusions.

  read this update and previous stories on http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/.

  rado vleugel

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  nancee park

  Gnam is an evil man trying to lay a "guilt" trip on a man who did all he could to fight the evil of the Watchtower Society. Shame on you, Gnam. If the father had known all the evil things your religious organization leaders do he would not have taught such things to his daughter. You of the Watchtower expose the children of Jehovah's Witnesses to death as well as rape by pedophiles.

  Gnam, your reward was vicious and insensitive. May this father expose your false teachings to save some lives so that others do not have the anguish he has suffered. 1 Sa 14:32-4 shows Saul's men ate unBLED meat and were not condemned for it because it was an emergency situation. Read Matthew 12 on Christ and mercy over sacrifice, noting too most identical twins transfuse blood to each other through a shared placenta.

  Stop the lies! You will be challenged on them.

  Edited by - nancee park on 7 September 2002 11:21:19